Fixing a speedcube

Work the silicone in, then let it dry. It makes the cube pretty hard to turn
sometimes when it's wet. Silicone works best when dry.

When removing stickers, I usually toss all the pieces in a bowl with water
and a little dish soap. After a very little amount of scrubbing with my
fingers, all the cubies are squeaky clean. Works well for me.

-Chris

Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone lubricant
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up the two
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and while
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn tightly. Is
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also, does anyone
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the original
stickers when changing them?

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esp2mgsol

2006-09-12 02:12:11 UTC

Thanks, I'll try the soap trick.

However, for the lube, I'm pretty sure I gave each side sufficient
time to dry, about 15 - 20 minutes each. After I put it together, I
tried playing with it for an hour and it still wouldn't loosen.

-Steve

Post by Chris Hunt
Work the silicone in, then let it dry. It makes the cube pretty hard to turn
sometimes when it's wet. Silicone works best when dry.
When removing stickers, I usually toss all the pieces in a bowl with water
and a little dish soap. After a very little amount of scrubbing with my
fingers, all the cubies are squeaky clean. Works well for me.
-Chris

Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone

lubricant

Post by esp2mgsol
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up the two
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and while
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn tightly. Is
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also, does anyone
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the

original

Post by esp2mgsol
stickers when changing them?

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Tyson Mao

2006-09-12 02:20:13 UTC

I would caution you about immersing the corner pieces in water for an
extended period of time. The corner pieces are hollow and so water can
get through the panel and it's pretty hard to get out after it gets in.

But this is just in my experience. Other people may have success with
different methods.

-Tyson

Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone lubricant
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up the

two

Post by esp2mgsol
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and

while

Post by esp2mgsol
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn tightly. Is
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also, does

anyone

Post by esp2mgsol
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the original
stickers when changing them?

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Per Kristen Fredlund

2006-09-12 06:34:32 UTC

Hi :-)

On the same note. For those who buy/assemble diy kits/cubes i don't
see any reason to assemble the panel/caps for the corners. The only
reason might be if it's desired to have a slightly heavier cube. In
that case corners can be filled also ...

Cheers!

- Per

Post by Tyson Mao
I would caution you about immersing the corner pieces in water for an
extended period of time. The corner pieces are hollow and so

water can

Post by Tyson Mao
get through the panel and it's pretty hard to get out after it

gets in.

Post by Tyson Mao
But this is just in my experience. Other people may have success with
different methods.
-Tyson

Post by Chris Hunt
Work the silicone in, then let it dry. It makes the cube pretty

hard

Post by Chris Hunt
to turn
sometimes when it's wet. Silicone works best when dry.
When removing stickers, I usually toss all the pieces in a bowl

with

Post by Chris Hunt
water
and a little dish soap. After a very little amount of scrubbing

with

Post by Chris Hunt
my
fingers, all the cubies are squeaky clean. Works well for me.
-Chris

Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone

lubricant

Post by esp2mgsol
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up the

two

Post by esp2mgsol
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and

while

Post by esp2mgsol
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn

tightly. Is

Post by esp2mgsol
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also,

does

Post by Chris Hunt
anyone

Post by esp2mgsol
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the original
stickers when changing them?

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armorforsleepnj

2006-09-12 16:14:57 UTC

I use baby oil. Apply baby oil to a napkin and it'll take the sticker
junk right off. It really does work magic.

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smgfreak_dk

2006-09-12 06:53:58 UTC

Is it only the 4x4x4 that became tight? It shouldn't be tight from the
spray... but sticky sounds feasible. Make sure you assembled it
properly and didn't swap adjacent edges or something. Just a wild
guess... I could be completely wrong; I never had much experience with
a 4x4x4 =X

Darren

esp2mgsol

2006-09-12 07:20:14 UTC

The 4x4x4 just got sticky, more so than it was before I sprayed it.
The 3x3x3 became tight... So much that I don't even want to look at
it anymore and just stick to the 4x4.

-Steve

Post by smgfreak_dk
Is it only the 4x4x4 that became tight? It shouldn't be tight from the
spray... but sticky sounds feasible. Make sure you assembled it
properly and didn't swap adjacent edges or something. Just a wild
guess... I could be completely wrong; I never had much experience with
a 4x4x4 =X
Darren

mike_go_uk

2006-09-12 07:30:55 UTC

Post by esp2mgsol
The 4x4x4 just got sticky, more so than it was before I sprayed it.
The 3x3x3 became tight... So much that I don't even want to look at
it anymore and just stick to the 4x4.

Perhaps you used TOO MUCH lube? (I've had that problem!)
Try wiping most of it off, and see if that helps.

Mike

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Dan Dzoan

2006-09-12 07:53:13 UTC

Scotch tape works really well to remove the sticky stuff left on the
cube from the original stickers.

Stefan Pochmann

2006-09-12 23:35:14 UTC

anyone

Post by esp2mgsol
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the original
stickers when changing them?

What types are your cubes, which ones got sticky, what's your spray?

Stefan

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esp2mgsol

2006-09-15 04:54:49 UTC

The two cubes that got sticky were both made by "winning moves". I
think they're starting to loosen up again though... I'm not quite
sure if it was the lube or not, it was a generic brand, so maybe
next time I'll pick up another type and try again.

Steve

Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone lubricant
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up

the

Post by esp2mgsol
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and

while

Post by esp2mgsol
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn tightly. Is
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also, does

anyone

Post by esp2mgsol
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the

original

Post by esp2mgsol
stickers when changing them?

What types are your cubes, which ones got sticky, what's your

spray?

Post by esp2mgsol
Stefan

Matt M.

2006-09-18 20:56:11 UTC

I had the same problem with both of my non-DIY cubes. I think I was
trying to compensate for cube tightness by overlubing. You really
should consider getting a DIY cube from Rubiks.com instead of wasting
time trying to break in a store-bought cube. I only use a very small
amount of lube now and rely mostly on spring tension to control ease
of turning.

I've also been using the "cube lube" that comes with the DIY cube
instead of silicone sprays, and that has never caused the
stickiness/tightness that you describe from a silicone spray. I
intend to go to a silicone oil (e.g. RC car shock oil from Hobbytown)
instead of spray once the cube lube runs out. I've never heard of the
oil causing that problem either, but I suppose it could still happen
if you use it excessively.

Post by esp2mgsol
The two cubes that got sticky were both made by "winning moves". I
think they're starting to loosen up again though... I'm not quite
sure if it was the lube or not, it was a generic brand, so maybe
next time I'll pick up another type and try again.
Steve

Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone lubricant
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up

the

Post by esp2mgsol
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and

while

Post by esp2mgsol
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn tightly.

Post by esp2mgsol
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also, does

anyone

Post by esp2mgsol
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the

original

Post by esp2mgsol
stickers when changing them?

What types are your cubes, which ones got sticky, what's your

spray?

Post by esp2mgsol
Stefan

Tyson Mao

2006-09-18 21:10:34 UTC

I personally haven't tried the DIY cube. With store bought cubes, it's all
about getting lucky. In a box of 6 cubes, about 2 or 3 cubes will be good
for cubing. 1 cube in 10 or 12 will be great for speed cubing, and 1 in I'd
estimate about 24 would be outstanding for speed cubing.

Of course, going through boxes of cubes is hard in the first place. I
wouldn't completely disregard store bought cubes. Many of them are just
fine.

-Tyson

I had the same problem with both of my non-DIY cubes. I think I was
trying to compensate for cube tightness by overlubing. You really
should consider getting a DIY cube from Rubiks.com instead of wasting
time trying to break in a store-bought cube. I only use a very small
amount of lube now and rely mostly on spring tension to control ease
of turning.
I've also been using the "cube lube" that comes with the DIY cube
instead of silicone sprays, and that has never caused the
stickiness/tightness that you describe from a silicone spray. I
intend to go to a silicone oil (e.g. RC car shock oil from Hobbytown)
instead of spray once the cube lube runs out. I've never heard of the
oil causing that problem either, but I suppose it could still happen
if you use it excessively.
esp2mgsol

"Stefan Pochmann"

Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone lubricant
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up

the

Post by esp2mgsol
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and

while

Post by esp2mgsol
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn tightly.

Post by esp2mgsol
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also, does

anyone

Post by esp2mgsol
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the

original

Post by esp2mgsol
stickers when changing them?

What types are your cubes, which ones got sticky, what's your

spray?

Post by esp2mgsol
Stefan

Lars Petrus

2006-09-19 02:35:59 UTC

Is the difference only in the frames?

If it's a combination of frames and the pieces, you could probably
salvage some "all star" cubes from the rejects. That is, replace bad
pieces with good in a cube with a good frames.

But I have not studied this at all.

/Lars

Post by Tyson Mao
I personally haven't tried the DIY cube. With store bought cubes, it's all
about getting lucky. In a box of 6 cubes, about 2 or 3 cubes will be good
for cubing. 1 cube in 10 or 12 will be great for speed cubing, and 1 in I'd
estimate about 24 would be outstanding for speed cubing.
Of course, going through boxes of cubes is hard in the first place. I
wouldn't completely disregard store bought cubes. Many of them are just
fine.
-Tyson

I had the same problem with both of my non-DIY cubes. I think I was
trying to compensate for cube tightness by overlubing. You really
should consider getting a DIY cube from Rubiks.com instead of wasting
time trying to break in a store-bought cube. I only use a very small
amount of lube now and rely mostly on spring tension to control ease
of turning.
I've also been using the "cube lube" that comes with the DIY cube
instead of silicone sprays, and that has never caused the
stickiness/tightness that you describe from a silicone spray. I
intend to go to a silicone oil (e.g. RC car shock oil from Hobbytown)
instead of spray once the cube lube runs out. I've never heard of the
oil causing that problem either, but I suppose it could still happen
if you use it excessively.
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esp2mgsol

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Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone lubricant
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up

the

two

Post by esp2mgsol
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and

while

Post by esp2mgsol
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn tightly.

Post by esp2mgsol
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also, does

anyone

Post by esp2mgsol
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the

original

Post by esp2mgsol
stickers when changing them?

What types are your cubes, which ones got sticky, what's your

spray?

Stefan

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d_funny007

2006-09-18 23:57:51 UTC

I bought 6 of them at the same time a long time ago and they didn't
turn out too well. personally, I don't like to use them. Although I
don't think I fully preped one in the same way I normally do so I
could be wrong.

I'm not terribly inclined to try another DIY until someone tells me
they got he center caps to fit properly. They did perfectly for the
white version, I don't see why they didn't bother to get it right
for the black ones. BTW, I like to use a washer on both ends of the
springs, this and lube will make a freshly assembled DIY not squeak
at all.

I don't understand the point of DIY cubes unless the user can
occasionally go in and adjust the tensions. This is not likely to
happen if I super glue things. I tried "spray glue" when I did it
and that turned out just as messes as super glue, or maybe I suck at
using glue. Then again, I don't even believe DIY kits should require
it.

Just go with the cubes in hexagonal prism packaging. Can't really go
wrong with them.

-Doug

Post by Matt M.
I had the same problem with both of my non-DIY cubes. I think I was
trying to compensate for cube tightness by overlubing. You really
should consider getting a DIY cube from Rubiks.com instead of

wasting

Post by Matt M.
time trying to break in a store-bought cube. I only use a very small
amount of lube now and rely mostly on spring tension to control ease
of turning.
I've also been using the "cube lube" that comes with the DIY cube
instead of silicone sprays, and that has never caused the
stickiness/tightness that you describe from a silicone spray. I
intend to go to a silicone oil (e.g. RC car shock oil from

Hobbytown)

Post by Matt M.
instead of spray once the cube lube runs out. I've never heard of the
oil causing that problem either, but I suppose it could still

happen

Post by Matt M.
if you use it excessively.

Post by esp2mgsol
The two cubes that got sticky were both made by "winning moves". I
think they're starting to loosen up again though... I'm not

quite

Post by Matt M.

Post by esp2mgsol
sure if it was the lube or not, it was a generic brand, so maybe
next time I'll pick up another type and try again.
Steve

Post by esp2mgsol
Hey guys, I really need some help. I bought a silicone

lubricant

Post by Matt M.

Post by esp2mgsol
spray, and I used it on a 3x3x3 and a 4x4x4 cube. It lubed up

the

Post by esp2mgsol
cubes perfectly. Then when I tried to lube a different 3x3x3 and

while

Post by esp2mgsol
re-lubing my 4x4x4, it made everything sticky and turn

tightly.

Post by Matt M.

Post by esp2mgsol
Is

Post by esp2mgsol
there something I'm doing wrong or is it the spray? Also, does

anyone

Post by esp2mgsol
have any tips on how to remove the sticky adhesive from the

original